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Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces outside of the main namespace (also called the "article namespace") which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for five days; then are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus (determined using the discussion as a guideline).

Contents


Introduction

The only currently-used namespaces in which pages are eligible for deletion here are:

  • Help:
  • Portal:
  • MediaWiki:
  • Wikipedia:
    • This includes WikiProjects, although it is usually preferable to either mark the Project as historical or change it to a task force of the parent Project, unless the Project is entirely undesirable.
  • User:
    • When a page in the User or User talk namespaces seems worthy of deletion, please explain your concerns using either a personal note or by adding "{{subst:Uw-userpage}} ~~~~" to their talk page. While this step is not required, it does assume good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using {{db-userreq}}.
  • the various Talk: namespaces
  • Userboxes, regardless of namespace.

The undeletion of pages deleted after having been discussed here, and debating whether discussions here have been properly closed, is the purview of Wikipedia:Deletion review, which operates in accordance with our undeletion policy.

Please familiarize yourself with the following policies

Prerequisites

Please bear in mind that:

  • Nominating a Wikipedia policy or guideline page, or one of the deletion discussion areas (or their sub-pages), for deletion will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy.
  • Nominating for deletion a proposed policy or guideline page that is still under discussion is generally frowned upon. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
  • User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion.
  • Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems.
  • If a page is in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), simply move it and tag the redirect for speedy deletion using {{db-reason}} using the reason: Redirect left after a cross-namespace move - G6 Housekeeping and notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.

How to list pages for deletion

Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area.

To list an article/page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)

I.
Edit PageName.

Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:

{{subst:mfd}}

or

{{subst:mfd|GroupName}}
if nominating several related pages in an umbrella nomination.

or

{{subst:md1-inline|PageName}}
if you are nominating a userbox in userspace or similarly transcluded page.
  • Be sure to include "subst:", not just {{mfd}}; this is easier on the servers.
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase
    Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]
    replace PageName with the name of the page that is up for deletion.
  • Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.
  • Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.
  • Save the page
II.
Create its MfD subpage.

The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"

  • Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.
  • Insert this text:
{{subst:mfd2 | pg=PageName | text=Reason why the page should be deleted}} -- ~~~~
replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion and Reason... with your reasons why the page should be deleted.
  • Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
  • Please use an edit summary such as
    Creating deletion discussion page for [PageName]
    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • Save the page.
III.
Add a line to MfD.

Follow   this edit link   and add a line to the top of the list:

{{subst:mfd3| pg=PageName}}
Put the page's name in place of "PageName".
  • Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like
    Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]
    replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
  • Save the page.
  • If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add
{{priorxfd|PageName}}
in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as
Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.
  • While not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the article and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add

    {{subst:MFDWarning|Article}}

    to their talk page, replacing Article with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as

    Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]

    replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
  • If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
  • If you are nominating a Portal, please make a note of your nomination here.

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2008-10-10

2008-10-09

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was courtesy blank mentions of ScienceApologist's name or IP data so far as is possible. Whilst it may not be possible to put the genie back in the bottle, drawing attention to the genie's escape need not necessarily mean distributing a description of the genie and his last known whereabouts. The discussion (now hidden from view but accessible via the page history per my closing rationale) shows that ScienceApologist has at times in the past disclosed what purported to be his identity and IP data. He would not be the first on this project to regret doing so upon becoming aware of the consequences this can have and, so far as it does not interfere with the operation of the project, we should be sensitive to the concerns of such users. I therefore ask all Wikipedia editors to extend ScienceApologist the courtesy of assisting in blanking mentions of personal information concerning him, and in reducing the google presence of that information. In the course of this discussion, a number of pages have been identified where such information is located and could be redacted with minimal consequences. ScienceApologist is in turn, per comments made by Lar in the checkuser request, strongly advised to exercise caution to ensure he is logged in when editing. WJBscribe (talk) 02:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/ScienceApologist

This discussion has been blanked as a courtesy.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

2008-10-08

Rindler coordinates/Old

This archived version of an article has not been touched since December 2006. The user who transfered it over stated this in the main article's talk page. The edit claims that there are factual errors in the old version which resulted in a need for the complete re-write. I have added a notiation on the talk page of the current article to advise them of this nomination. I did consider that this should go to AfD, but this is not truly an article in the true meaning -- this is an archived version.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 23:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Ublinskykh

Somebodys CV, no evidence or even suggestion of any notability that could let it stand as an article Jac16888 (talk) 21:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete. CVs are a nono. CWii(Talk|Contribs) 04:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as per WP:NOTWEBHOST. Jordan Contribs 10:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete No need to be hosting this •CHILLDOUBT• 10:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, no other edits. --Anna Lincoln (talk) 15:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - Content not meeting WP:User last edited 21 January 2008 by Ublinskykh seems ripe for deletion. -- Suntag ☼ 16:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. User is using wikipedia solely to host and update his CV. Should have blanked the CV before bringing it here. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Sjorford/List of people who died before the age of 30

The user subpage has not been edited since 24 January 2008. The page has become an indefinitely archive of a preferred version of disputed content, previously deleted content, or permanent content that is meant to be part of the encyclopedia. -- Suntag ☼ 15:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete as per WP:NOTWEBHOST. Jordan Contribs 17:04, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Lists don't have the same concerns as articles when they are userfied. They can be an arbitrary list for the editor to work on, for example. -- Ned Scott 01:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Lists on user pages still have to be worked on to prevent them from becoming archived or permanent content. -- Suntag ☼ 09:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • I've said below I intend to work on this. Am I allowed to take a copy? Carcharoth (talk) 21:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Lists don't have to be worked on. In the past I've seen lists moved to userpages or WikiProject subpages for editors to have a list of stuff to work on because the list was useful from an editorial standpoint. -- Ned Scott 06:03, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - what is the difference between this list and User:Sebwite/30? I'm currently involved in the DRV over the 'death by age' categories that Sebwite suggested/started (I think he did that), see here, and I have created User:Carcharoth/People who died aged XX and Wikipedia:Biographical metadata. I'm also confused as to why List of people who died in their thirties has not been nominated for deletion yet. I personally would like to see the userspace versions kept, as they have some entries not accessible via the page I set up (the one I mentioned above). One list I want to set up will cover our articles on children who die while they are still children, or rather specific subsets of that. In particular, royals who die in childhood. Carcharoth (talk) 21:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. This is material useful for improving the encyclopedia. There are no time limits. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:10, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Help Desk/Preview before post

Appears to be a test page. TN‑X-Man 15:33, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Not necessarily; somebody whose command of English is not strong, seems to be trying to make a point about different styles of editing and the "create title, then edit" type of new article that so often gets deleted (but in the totally wrong place, I think). --Orange Mike | Talk 15:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Userfy - -- Suntag ☼ 09:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • It may be a another way to ask the questions, then add JustbeBPMF (talk) 20:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Userfy. Essentially is a single author essay. Compare with Wikipedia:Editcountitis --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Tiffany (movie studio)

The only content on this talk page is a post in which somebody gives their name and states that they are 10 years of age. -- Bwrs (talk) 14:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Addendum to nomination: I see this talk page has since been blanked. Deletion is probably superior to blanking because courtesy-blanked content is still visible in the page history. Bwrs (talk) 14:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - No reason to keep the name and age around of someone so young. -- Suntag ☼ 10:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. The talk page would otherwise be blank, so no real reason to go through the hoops to oversight the info out. --UsaSatsui (talk) 19:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. It doesn't really matter. There is no serious information disclosed here. Blanking would have been sufficient. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

2008-10-07

Wikipedia:WikiProject VVMAP

Rather fishy looking WikiProject, created by a user who's made some troublesome edits in the past. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 23:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Fishy edits?--Cooljuno411 (talk) 02:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete You want users to upload the videos to You Tube and then link them? That's a copy-vio. CWii(Talk|Contribs) 23:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
No, you don't get the purpose, the project is designed for users to upload THEIR videos they made themselves to YouTube as well as wikipedia. The purpose is so people can easily use the videos in other places, and not just exclusively wikipeida, especially with wikipedias very rare perfered video file, .ogv. People that contribute to the project are uplaoding their user created content, they are not just pulling things off of youtube. The projects main goal to expand the currently very limited selection of videos on Wikipedia and as well make in easy for users to use video for educational purposes off of Wikipedia. This website i made for a class project is a great example of what i mean by "off-site educational use" Raver class project, navigate through the pages and you will find how we used video multi-media for educational purposes. See the article San Diego Trolley for an example of how a video of a page.--Cooljuno411 (talk) 00:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
When you upload the videos to youtube they become copyrighted. Thus causing a problem here on wiki. CWii(Talk|Contribs) 01:04, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
No, i can upload a video to the Wikimedia commons aswell as YouTube, there is no where on YouTube that says once you upload a video to YouTube you can never upload or use the video anywhere else, you are sadly mistaken. People upload their videos to personal blogs, websites, etc. and well as YouTube all the time, C-SPAN, a cable channel, uplaods their videos on their site as-well as youtube. Please try re-reading what i said, i don't think you understand the concept.--Cooljuno411 (talk) 01:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't think you know what copyright means, and how it affects wikipedia. When a something is copyrighted it is owned by the copyright owner. On Wikipedia we take copyright seriously. We something is copyrighted on another site we cannot have it here. This is for legal reasons. All videos on YouTube are copyrighted. CWii(Talk|Contribs) 01:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The question is not if I understand copyright's, yeah i clearly get that, it's you who is not understanding the concept of how this project works. Go to the project page, see the video with the red trolley?, i made that video myself. I, being the creator and owner to the rights of that video uploaded it to the wikimedia commons as well as youtube. There is no issue, i am assuming you think the project just takes videos that are found on YouTuve and re uploads them here, no, that is false, the creators of the video uploads the video themselves to both YouTube and Wikmedia, that is not a copyright violation.--Cooljuno411 (talk) 02:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, see comment i left above.--Cooljuno411 (talk) 00:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep I don't see anything fishy, and there is no copyvio issue here. -- Ned Scott 03:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep I think it's a great idea and I am kind of offended that someone would actually nominate this great idea for deletion.--216.115.235.50 (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


No very strong reason to delete, no strong reason to keep:
  • While I don’t see anything good in this project, it does not seem to violate YouTube’s Terms (6.1/E/ii of the Russian version, since YouTube won’t let me see the English version). That is, if Cooljuno filmed the movie of the tram on his own.
  • By uploading a video to YouTube, you give it a nonexclusive license on the video (Terms:10).
  • Proprietary patented formats are by no means better for Commons than open free formats. People should learn to use free formats, not use proprietary software to view illustrations of a free encyclopedia.
  • YouTube prohibits downloading videos from it, it only allows streaming.
  • The only, very little because of the above, good would be traffic distribution. Also, it is better if people upload files to Commons and YouTube, than if they upload there files only to YouTube.
  • So, very very weak conditional keep: require a prominent link to Commons in the YouTube descriptions, probably with a format and downloadability mention. None of these conditions is satisfied in the first video of the project.
    • Also, requiring a certain free license is not very good; that paragraph should be clarified as to whether other licenses are allowed to be added.
--AVRS (talk) 12:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. While I do not see anything “fishy” about the WikiProject, some stuff on YouTube is taken from other, copyrighted sources, for which reason linking to YouTube is strongly discouraged by policy. Monitoring to make sure that only original videos are used will create a lot of work for a lot of people, unless we have actual administrators (that is, users who are trusted by the community) who are willing to commit to this. Bwrs (talk) 14:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
People are uploading their own content, as i said above, this project is not taking thing found on YouTube, user upload the files that THEY made, i recommend you reread the project page, because it appears you are miss informed. The project aims for users to dual uploads video to Wikipedia as well as YouTube, to allow easier use of media. The .ogv video format that wikipedia uses is a very rare format, for me to convert a video i had to download special terminal commands for my mac, i could not find any program that allows me to view or create this very odd file format. This projects goal is to make it easy to use videos found on Wikipedia, and aswell promote greater use of video files on wikipedia.--Cooljuno411 (talk) 19:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Change, rename and Move. It needs to be changed to a proposal, renamed to Wikiproject:Video, and moved onto Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals. If there's agreement to start the project, this page can be recreated. I don't understand the inclusion of youtube here. We link to youtube from articles sometimes, but not often, and only when there's no free equivalent. We're trying to build a repository of free-content material. Encouraging people to upload video to commons is a fine thing, but encouraging them to upload to youtube as well is beyond our scope. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 14:52, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Proposals are not required for a WikiProject to start, they're just one way to see if there is interest in an idea for one. -- Ned Scott 06:05, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Mack-the-random/WTF? (webseries)

Non-notable webseries, page is being used as a host for non-encyclopedic content Jac16888 (talk) 20:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

  • It isn't a sandbox to work on a legitimate article, and is therefore just being a host to that content. So the page should be deleted. seresin ( ¡? )  21:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. No evidence of notability = no chances that this becomes an article one day. Also, if it becomes an article then almost nothing from this page will be salvageable. --Enric Naval (talk) 22:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as per WP:NOTWEBHOST. Jordan Contribs 12:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete The last edit was 23 March 2008, so content seems to have become permanent or archive of material. -- Suntag ☼ 10:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Onepartha

Wikipedia is not a free webhost. User's only contribution is to post a detailed CV to user page. -- Peacock (talk) 12:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete as per WP:NOT. Jordan Contribs 17:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Blank - the user just opened the account Sept 19th, how about welcoming and pointing out on the talk page why it does not meet WP:UP. Lets not bite. I know that blanking has the basic same effect as deletion on the surface, but it saves everyone's time by not having to list it here and having an admin process the deletion. It also has the presumed benefit of actually engaging the new user with an explanation of why the user page was deleted. --Jordan 1972 (talk) 17:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - The page was last edited 19 September 2008, so it may be a little early to delete it. Perhaps give the user to 19 December 2008 (three months) to change it. Also, was there any attempt to email the user to see if the would revise the page? -- Suntag ☼ 10:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, no other edits. --Anna Lincoln (talk) 15:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

User:TRTX/RB

This page looks as if it is advertising Rock Band. What do you think?. Mythdon (talk) 11:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

This page, as well as User:TRTX/GH3 have been used for sandboxing for quite some time. A look at my user page as well as the history and What Links Here? would have made that obvious. -- TRTX T / C 14:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I still don't believe those pages should exist. They are advertisements in your userspace. If your going to have a sandbox, I think it would be best not to include advertisements. Mythdon (talk) 14:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Mythdon, could you please demonstrate how this is advertising? As I pointed out in my response, this is a sandbox article that has been used on several occasions to assist in redesigns for List of songs in Rock Band and List of downloadable songs for the Rock Band series. -- TRTX T / C 14:36, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete as per WP:UP and WP:SOAP. Jordan Contribs 17:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep I'm not sure what the issue here is, but it's not a case of spam. -- Ned Scott 03:33, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I know the goal on Wiki is to generally assume good faith, but I seem to a recall a bit of a "history" between Mythdon and myself. I've been able to dig up what I have available here: See threads beginning with "No they were not". I find it highly suspect that of all the editors and subpages out there that it would be this user and my subpage. -- TRTX T / C 14:36, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
You should fix that link. It is actually User talk:TRTX/Archive 1#No they were not!. Mythdon (talk) 16:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep The page was last edited before the MfD nomination on 1 October 2008 by TRTX. It appears that TRTX still needs it as a sandbox. -- Suntag ☼ 10:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

2008-10-06

User:Webgroup

Seems to violate WP:NOTWEBHOST. haz (talk) 20:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

User:EmilyJRoberts

Violates WP:UP#NOT/WP:NOTMYSPACE as a MySpace-like user page with no Wikipedia-related content. haz (talk) 20:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Pinkyman404

Violation of WP:UP#NOT and/or WP:NOTWEBHOST as userpage entirely concerned with off-wiki activities, containing promotional external link. haz (talk) 14:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Archangelwade

Violation of WP:UP#NOT and/or WP:NOTWEBHOST as promotional userpage entirely concerned with off-wiki activities. haz (talk) 14:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete, we're not a web host. --Anna Lincoln (talk) 10:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete As per Wikipedia policy. We are not a web host. Jordan Contribs 17:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Sheikhali777

Violation of WP:UP#NOT and/or WP:NOTWEBHOST as promotional userpage entirely concerned with off-wiki activities. haz (talk) 14:21, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Zanbam

Violation of WP:UP#NOT and/or WP:NOTWEBHOST, using user space as promotional page. haz (talk) 14:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

User:The Real Baby Ace/subpage/walgreens environmental record

POV fork in userspace. User hasn't contributed since May. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 14:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete - Content no longer meeting WP:User last edited by The Real Baby Ace on 6 May 2008 seems ripe for deletion. -- Suntag ☼ 16:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Rmattai

Violation of WP:UP#NOT and/or WP:NOTMYSPACE, using user space as personal webspace. haz (talk) 13:59, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Nitrousmusic

Violation of WP:UP#NOT and/or WP:NOTMYSPACE, using user space as personal webspace. haz (talk) 13:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Jacksterlinghowlett

User page that seems to be meant to promote his paintings. User's contributions are limited to this user page and several images of his paintings, which were never used in any articles. —Bkell (talk) 13:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Tutorial (Formatting)/sandbox

This is an exact duplicate of the regular sandbox. It would probably be just as productive to redirect this to Wikipedia:Sandbox. -- GO-PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 01:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Yes, it would (agree with nomination) -- how do you turn this on 02:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Having a number of sandboxes prevents horrendous edit conflicts in the main one, and it's useful to have it linked to the formatting tutorial so that people can see examples of formatting tests and build on what others have done. Might as well keep it for these two reasons. -- zzuuzz (talk) 02:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per Zzuuzz. In any case, it can't hurt to keep it, especially seeing as ClueBot II is configured to keep it in order. haz (talk) 20:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. Having only one sandbox will make that one sandbox mostly useless, with the number of edits and randomness that goes on. -- Ned Scott 01:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

User:David Cruise/Homogeneity

This user has long been absent and all these articles are versions for long term storage. All the images that fall on the pages as the only usage should also be deleted.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 00:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep all and use {{NOINDEX}}/blanking on any that might be problematic. The "long term storage" really isn't an issue for pages that became inactive because an editor left. This is very different than someone intentionally creating pages to serve as a stored version. Sandboxes don't have idle timers. -- Ned Scott 01:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Consider me neutral right now. Seems he didn't actually work on any of these. -- Ned Scott 22:20, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Have a look at this relativly short talk page Talk:Canonical analysis. The above pages are simply copies of articles that he wrote in which he is keeping his prefered versions. It is also very likley that this user and the user and IP address in this diff [2] are the same person. The references added to the respective articles appear to be written by the person behind User:Cruise. --Jordan 1972 (talk) 22:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete all as archived/permanent content in user subpages. -- Suntag ☼ 10:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - MfD is not for deleting images. That need to be done at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. -- Suntag ☼ 10:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

2008-10-05

User:Tom Sayle/TalkHeader

This template discourages people from discussing someone's edits with them which is the entire purpose of a user's talk page. It only encourages nastiness among editors and serves no real purpose to an open community. Additionally, the user has been blocked for his combative nature so I'm not sure if this should stay with him being indefinitely blocked. Metros (talk) 15:39, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete. Heck, I could even go for a speedy on this. Clearly inappropriate. --UsaSatsui (talk) 16:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete: If you are creating templates like this because of your editing, your template will be deleted on sight. Tohd8BohaithuGh1 (talk) 17:04, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete a personal sub-page of an indefinitely blocked sockpuppetering user with no purpose (given that he is blocked). - Icewedge (talk) 00:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Obviously delete, discourages discussion. --Anna Lincoln (talk) 10:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, as obviously counter-productive. Nsk92 (talk) 12:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment The user page came from Template:If you are here. -- Suntag ☼ 10:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Goals

A completely unofficial list of "goals" which are rather mangled and not really at all accurate. Redundant to the real mission statements we have dotted about. J Milburn (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom, not really our goals. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 14:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment why not just redirect it to WP:5P? -- Ned Scott 01:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete In a terrible state, not actually defined goals. Seems to have been test-edited. Delete. Jordan Contribs 18:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Currently is a sensible redirect. No need to delete anything. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:20, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject External links/Ad

This has to be one of the most user-abusive wiki-"things" I've ever seen. I thought my mouse was broken when I first saw this monstrosity. I'm not 100% certain this is the correct XfD process for this page. It is intended solely for transclusion, making it a template, but it is not in the "Template:" namespace.
— SMcCandlish talk cont ‹(-¿-)› 06:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep these ads are fairly common. I couldn't personally link you to the actual template which most people use for "ads", but I'm sure someone can. Either way, I similarly don't know if this should be template space or WP space. But I do know it shouldn't be XfD'd. :) --Izno (talk) 14:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. I agree completely with the nom about it being annoying, but that's not a reason to delete it, and it could serve a purpose. --UsaSatsui (talk) 16:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Seems to be apart of the Wikipedia ad project. -- Ned Scott 01:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Part of a WikiProject, no meaningful reason for deletion. Jordan Contribs 18:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment isn't this part of the {{Qxz-ads}} system? -- Suntag ☼ 10:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. Fix the problems. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:22, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment: "Keep Seems to be apart of the Wikipedia ad project" and similar comments aren't actually a delete/keep rationale of any kind. Being part of a project doesn't magically grant XfD immunity. — SMcCandlish talk cont ‹(-¿-)› 06:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Old business

Everything from here on down is old business; the current 5-day review period has ended. Everything from this point on should be dealt with and removed from the workflow. Move this marker up as time passes. Editors may continue to add comments until the discussion is closed but they should keep in mind that the discussion may be closed at any time without further notice.


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User:Missle43

Delete - user page being used as personal webpage/self-promotion. Otto4711 (talk) 14:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep I don't agree with Otto here. I'm neutral on the MySpace/YouTube links, but I see no evidence of self-promotion. The user has made edits outside their userspace, to articles unrelated to those mentioned on his userpage, and it's reasonably established and commonplace for users to write about themselves as human beings as well as Wikipedia users. I don't see an issue here. PeterSymonds (talk) 15:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - I am seeing here not a Wikipedia user writing about himself, but a Youtube user having created a Wikipedia userpage with the same moniker for further promotion. Main space edits related to a school or this[3] do not convince me that we should give some leeway here.--Tikiwont (talk) 08:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - The user last edited the page 14 September 2008, so it seems premature to delete it. Perhaps give the matter until 14 December 2008 (3 months) to resolve itself before relisting it at MfD. -- Suntag ☼ 10:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Remove all off-site possibly promotional links until the user contributes more to the encylopedia than he has contributed to his userpage. Deletion is too bitey. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
    • I removed the off-wikipedia links. The commons link led to nothing. [4] --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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